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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2007, 12:02:57 AM »

Those were too easy.

Periodical IV (cababos):hugykob
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2007, 12:38:18 AM »


Here is a solution to Periodical III (hivifig) - without cheating  Wink : hyzypos

Still working on IV...
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2007, 02:43:33 AM »


Here is a solution to Periodical III (hivifig) - without cheating  Wink : hyzypos

Wow.  That compact double-speed dozer draw is really, really amazing.

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2007, 10:58:02 PM »


Wow.  That compact double-speed dozer draw is really, really amazing.


Thanks. It was the first thing I started with: I had to have a way to pull the crates at double-speed, otherwise the solution would have been very difficult. And because a row of right-to-left dozer can draw at double speed, it was "just" a matter of getting them to loop back  Wink

Here is a solution for Periodical IV (cabobos): memagis
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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2007, 10:28:19 AM »

For Periodical IV (cabobos): gecyvag.

I had the culling of the required crates done early on and just needed to get a dozer draw working that didn't take up too much space. imageI had experimented with this kind of draw before with two dozer streams reversing independently and rejoining with one coming up under a turn signal that the other was using, but it was just too tall. Reading the thread I knew Rene had come up with something compact, so I just stuck with it until I finally came upon the trick that allows extreme miniaturization image(the stacked turn signals). Compared to Rene's hyzypos, the draws are almost exactly the same. I like the crate cull in hyzypos and memagis and the timing -- how it all just comes together at the end.

I had experimented with another dozer draw, but it doesn't save any vertical space so I rejected it. Here it is: digybad
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2007, 02:20:19 AM »

I finally came upon the trick that allows extreme miniaturization image(the stacked turn signals).

Not necessary.  cokihyk does the exact same thing without imagethe lower of the two signals.
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2007, 06:19:47 AM »

Yes it looks like the imagetop signal is the key. Here is a progression: tybubas, but I had something even a little taller. I had first joined the two streams on top, and then fixed it with the key piece. Now I see the streams don't even need to be joined. But once I had a shortened version working, I didn't spend much time optimizing.
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« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2008, 01:03:22 PM »

I noticed I never posted my solution for Periodical IV.
Here it is: ciravuz
It is proof that you don't need a double-speed dozer draw.

NEW PUZZLE:
Sixteen rabagot
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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2008, 03:30:40 PM »

For Sixteen (rabagot): dadakyc
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« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2008, 07:51:31 PM »

For Sixteen (rabagot): bihedor (no downward copiers).  I had the most trouble with imageB
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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2008, 08:05:54 PM »

Sixteen:   zexyses  imageC and E were the only ones that were even remotely difficult.  Pretty much everything else was copy-paste work.
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« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2008, 09:59:33 PM »

Similar solution to Bucky's, only less tidy: folecun.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2008, 06:44:20 AM »

For Sixteen: bimoxix
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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2008, 07:13:06 PM »

Other solutions have inspired me to see if Sixteen could be done using the same "pattern" for each cell.
For Sixteen (rabagot): galorin
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2008, 07:27:28 AM »

For Binary (metugeb): texeral

Edit: Whoops, I was looking at page 1. Ah well.
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